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#101 ray b

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 13:46

No idea but a Ranger is a Mazda, or at least in Australia it is.


in the USA they are fords badged as mazda's
the pushrod v6 is a ford motor as is the old pinto based 2.3 4 banger
they also use ford's twin I-beam front end here

I have heard the ROW rangers are mazda's rebadged as fords

do your utes use a pushrod v6 mid 90's
or the twin beam front end ?

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#102 Catalina Park

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 04:35

I don't think Lee knows about the US Ford Ranger which I understand is a kind of little F100.
The Ranger name has only been used in Australia for the past 5 years on a Mazda pick-up. (probably made in Thailand) No V6 and no twin I beams on them.


#103 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:55

in the USA they are fords badged as mazda's
the pushrod v6 is a ford motor as is the old pinto based 2.3 4 banger
they also use ford's twin I-beam front end here

I have heard the ROW rangers are mazda's rebadged as fords

do your utes use a pushrod v6 mid 90's
or the twin beam front end ?

Is that the V6 version of a Windsor V8 then?

#104 ray b

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 16:52

Is that the V6 version of a Windsor V8 then?



no that is a 90 deg 3.8-3.9 -4.2 v6
used in full size trucks only
called the Canadian Essex
but not the same as the brit's essex

the ranger v6 is this one 60 deg
http://en.wikipedia....ulcan_V6_engine

the one I want to swap in is called a Duratec 3.5 or 3.7
it is a alloy DOHC 60 deg v6 with DI
also the eco-boost if turboed
and is a member of the Ford Cyclone engine family
currently used in mustangs and F-150 trucks in RWD

Edited by ray b, 26 January 2012 - 17:07.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 17:41

no that is a 90 deg 3.8-3.9 -4.2 v6
used in full size trucks only
called the Canadian Essex
but not the same as the brit's essex

the ranger v6 is this one 60 deg
http://en.wikipedia....ulcan_V6_engine

the one I want to swap in is called a Duratec 3.5 or 3.7
it is a alloy DOHC 60 deg v6 with DI
also the eco-boost if turboed
and is a member of the Ford Cyclone engine family
currently used in mustangs and F-150 trucks in RWD


I have an ecoboost in my 2012 F150 and it is most impressive even in a 5000 pound truck.......I wouldn't mind having that motor in a light weight street rod!

John


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:37

On race A series BMC engines with chain driven cams we would usualy advance the cam timing to allow for bedding in chain stretch.
About 2 degrees.
On the belt drive conversion with wheel tensioner fitted it would be nearly twice that.
All the othe race camed engines we did over four cylinder almost always needed between 2 and 3 degrees of cam advance to allow for stretch and more for belt drive.

#107 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:09

On race A series BMC engines with chain driven cams we would usualy advance the cam timing to allow for bedding in chain stretch.
About 2 degrees.
On the belt drive conversion with wheel tensioner fitted it would be nearly twice that.
All the othe race camed engines we did over four cylinder almost always needed between 2 and 3 degrees of cam advance to allow for stretch and more for belt drive.

That goes against the experience of any of the hi tech engine guys that I know.Mitsis, Fords, Toymotas etc Yet alone belt drive conversions for a lot of old school V8s. All far more powerfull than an A series BMC