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[Collombin]

Wow. For the first and last time with one of your questions!

I will post a new question tomorrow once I've thought of something.

[GMiranda]

Wow. For the first and last time with one of your questions!

I will post a new question tomorrow once I've thought of something.

Oh no, not at all. But I am a bit busy and this was waiting too much.

[Collombin]

Ok, this should be eminently guessable even if you don't know it for sure.

Name the only circuit at which both Stirling Moss and Jim Clark had a 100% winning record.

[Beri]

100% of their entered races finish first? Or 100% of their finished races finishing in first?

 

Edit: There are quite some "obscure" championships both drove in. It must be one of those "Tasman" races I reckon. And when looking on it, I never realized Moss and Clark drove full F1 championships together. I always had the impression that Moss was a 50s era guy. Never realizing he drove during the 60s as well.

Edited by Beri, 10 November 2023 - 11:00.

[Collombin]

Moss and Clark competed in the same race on 41 occasions I believe, although by definition none of those can provide the answer to this question.

I had forgotten to clarify that the question does cover all categories of racing, although I suppose that was obvious.

To answer your question, they have to have won every race start. A DNF is a loss.

Edited by Collombin, 10 November 2023 - 11:07.

[Ivanhoe]

I'm gonna do a wild guess: Mallory Park?

[68targa]

Even wilder ... Winfield ?

[Collombin]

I'm gonna do a wild guess: Mallory Park?

This will test the completeness of my data, as I can't see Moss having competed at Mallory at all! Shout if you know differently. Clark was 8 wins out of 14 there (or 9 out of 19 including heats).

[Collombin]

Even wilder ... Winfield ?

I think it was purely a sprint venue when Clark competed there, and although he won most times, it wasn't every time (being careful not to penalise him for losing to himself, as happened on occasion!).

Moss indeed won his only race there.

[Ivanhoe]

This will test the completeness of my data, as I can't see Moss having competed at Mallory at all! Shout if you know differently. Clark was 8 wins out of 14 there (or 9 out of 19 including heats).

lol, didn't check    Wild guess because they both have a statue there..

[Collombin]

lol, didn't check Wild guess because they both have a statue there..

It surprised me too!

[dmj]

Charade?

 

Moss won F2 in 1959, Clark F1 in 1965... 

[Collombin]

Charade?

Moss won F2 in 1959, Clark F1 in 1965...

Correct 👍

I was disappointed I couldn't find any circuits with a bigger sample size that met the criteria. I think Warwick Farm came closest, Moss 2/2 and Clark 3/4 (beaten into 2nd by JYS in the 1967 Australian GP).

Your turn.

[dmj]

Which racing driver, according to his statement, had a coffee with James Dean immediately before actor sat into his Porsche and drove off towards Salinas?

[Charlieman]

Ed Hugus 

[dmj]

I believe Ed was living way out of California at that time.

Story I refer to can't be proven but is perfectly believable as driver and Dean were friends.

[D-Type]

Was it Ken Miles?

[dmj]

They did race against each other but no. I'm looking for another driver, one with WDC experience (although it will happen a few years after Dean's death).

[68targa]

Can't think of the driver but it reminds me of the alleged story that Dean made love to Natalie Wood in his 550 Porsche !!

[GMiranda]

Lance Reventlow?

[dmj]

GMiranda is right. Lance Reventlow told that story, and two were, apparently, very good friends.

[GMiranda]

There's a historical F1 event that involves someone with the name of a character of the acknowledged 1959 western Rio Bravo. Which was the race, the contenders and the persons related to the final decision?

[dmj]

I don't know if it is what you’re thinking of, but I’d guess 1975. US Grand Prix and famous clash of Martin Burdette and Luca di Montezemolo over Regga’s disqualification? Now, there are some Burdettes at Rio Bravo but not Martin. On the other side, Burdette actually attended many GPs but this is his most prominent feature in F1 history.

[GMiranda]

I don't know if it is what you’re thinking of, but I’d guess 1975. US Grand Prix and famous clash of Martin Burdette and Luca di Montezemolo over Regga’s disqualification? Now, there are some Burdettes at Rio Bravo but not Martin. On the other side, Burdette actually attended many GPs but this is his most prominent feature in F1 history.

You're right, Burdette is the key name, and I'm speaking about Burdette Martin. Well, he was working on a race that became much more famous than that. Probably, it's one of the most legendary moments in F1 ever.

[dmj]

Well, he was involved with a lot of GPs, from Sebring 1959. to early 21st century but I can't think of which one you're referring to, so I'll pass to someone who knows more about it.

[GMiranda]

Well, he was involved with a lot of GPs, from Sebring 1959. to early 21st century but I can't think of which one you're referring to, so I'll pass to someone who knows more about it.

It's an F1 race where he was working... not in the US.

[Jim Thurman]

There's a historical F1 event that involves someone with the name of a character of the acknowledged 1959 western Rio Bravo. Which was the race, the contenders and the persons related to the final decision?

The 1973 Canadian Grand Prix, featuring the first known use of a safety (pace) car in F1? The contenders? I don't know that even I can name all of them!    Howden Ganley, Peter Revson...Donahue? Fittipaldi?

[GMiranda]

The 1973 Canadian Grand Prix, featuring the first known use of a safety (pace) car in F1? The contenders? I don't know that even I can name all of them!    Howden Ganley, Peter Revson...Donahue? Fittipaldi?

No, no rain or safety-car involved.

[Jim Thurman]

No, no rain or safety-car involved.

The 1959 U.S. Grand Prix at Sebring? Harry Schell, Jack Brabham and Stirling Moss?

[GMiranda]

No, not in the Americas

[dmj]

Burdette was one of three stewards at Suzuka 1989, and the only one who publicly defended Balestre and decision to disqualify Senna. Maybe you think about that situation?

[GMiranda]

Burdette was one of three stewards at Suzuka 1989, and the only one who publicly defended Balestre and decision to disqualify Senna. Maybe you think about that situation?

You're right!!! It's the 1989 Suzuka Grand Prix. You've already named the FISA President and one of the drivers, so it only remains the other driver and the remaining stewards involved.

[dmj]

Alain Prost, John Corsmit and Takayoshi Ohashi.

[GMiranda]

Alain Prost, John Corsmit and Takayoshi Ohashi.

Precisely... I think Ohashi is the only one alive from those stewards.

[dmj]

Comic books and racing…

a) Which late comic book artist famously replied “I like Italian racing cars, red ones.” when asked how he copes with fame and money his most famous work brought to him? He didn’t lie, among the Ferraris he owned and sometimes raced in historic events were 365 P2/3 Berlinetta, 512 M, 308 GTB Michelotto, 512 BB LM and F40 LM.

b) Which (not just) racing ace in mid-1930s ventured into writing scripts for two series of comic books, one of them fairly commercially successful? Of course, we don’t know how much writing he actually did but he is fully credited as the scriptwriter…

[D-Type]

Is (b) Sir Malcolm Campbell?

[Allan Lupton]

a) would be Albert Uderzo I think.

[LittleChris]

I thought a) might be Jean Graton