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[Nemo1965]

You need to be a member to read that.

 

Really? I just could just click and read...

 

PS: First. Not any more. Sad...

[Macca]

copied from Steve McQueen, 'Day of the Champion', Warner Bros - The Nostalgia Forum - The Autosport Forums

 

which might still work.

 

 

"Background article and promise of a feature in the Feb 2020 issue of MS

 

Steve McQueen: The Lost Movie review — 'Sensational footage of F1 from 1965' - Motor Sport Magazine

 

The linked article contains a reference to Sir Stirling Moss recording laps around the Nurburgring just after the 1965 German GP, driving Walker's Brabham BRM.   I wonder what his lap times were ?"

 

 

Going back to a couple of things on the last page:- Bruce McLaren had a speaking part in the film, at the Spa drivers' meeting; and Francoise Hardy seems to have recovered from her latest health issue according to the latest I've seen.

 

And here are a couple of photos which seem to confirm the older gentleman was James Garner's father:

 

 

 

 

In other news (as they say), I recently saw another documentary on Netflix about the 1966 Le Mans 24 Hours, and there was brief footage of Enzo Ferrari talking to Adolfo Celli.

 

Belatedly, RIP Antonio Sabato - here is a still from a presumably deleted scene:

 

 

 

Paul M

Edited by Macca, 04 February 2021 - 11:54.

[john winfield]

For Françoise Hardy enthusiasts, who can access BBC Radio 4 Extra, there's a re-run today of John Andrew's 2011 programme 'Falling for Françoise'.

 

15.30 - 16.00 :  'John Andrew visits Paris to retrace his teenage fascination with French singer Françoise Hardy, who is interviewed'.  It's already available on BBC Sounds, and will be there for another three weeks.

 

Sadly, no evidence of anything similar for Eva, Jessica, James, Yves, Brian etc.........

 

https://www.bbc.co.u...s/play/b0118bgw

Edited by john winfield, 14 February 2021 - 14:15.

[MCS]

I hadn't realised that Jochen Rindt had played so many driver parts in the movie:  https://jochenrindt....rand-prix-film/

[john winfield]

I hadn't realised that Jochen Rindt had played so many driver parts in the movie:  https://jochenrindt....rand-prix-film/

 

 

Interesting photos!

 

In the first one, the meeting, is that Jo Schlesser front right? Guy Ligier in front of the double doors? Who is it right at the back, looking to one side? And any one we know peeping over Graham's shoulder?

[Collombin]

The guy at the back, looking to one side is Paul Frere.

Looking over Graham's shoulder could be Denny Hulme.

Edited by Collombin, 14 March 2021 - 21:03.

[AJB]

<pedant mode on> Photo 3 states it's JR wearing Chris Amon's helmet, but it's actually  "Pete Aron's". <pedant mode off>

[Vitesse2]

And any one we know peeping over Graham's shoulder?

Bernard Cahier?

[Arjan de Roos]

Bernard Cahier?

No, young Denny Hulme. Cahier was in the scene, yet on the other side of this room wearing a tie.

Schlesser, Ligier and Frere all there! 

[Emery0323]

And more sad news for "Grand Prix" fans:   Jessica Walter, who played Pat Stoddard, the wife of Scott Stoddard (Brian Bedford), has died at age 80.

 

https://www.hollywoo...-was-80-1262068

 

She was primarily known for her TV roles, many of the obituaries omit any mention of her role in Grand Prix.

 

I believe that leaves Eva-Marie Saint and Francoise Hardy as the only members of the principal cast still alive.

Edited by Emery0323, 25 March 2021 - 19:50.

[jonpollak]

RIP Pat Stoddard.
Jp

[john winfield]

That is sad. RIP Jessica Walter.

[john winfield]

No, young Denny Hulme. Cahier was in the scene, yet on the other side of this room wearing a tie.

Schlesser, Ligier and Frere all there! 

 

Arjan, I've just cheated and had a look on YouTube where the complete film can be found. The drivers' meeting is at 1.27.40 and, as you say, Bernard Cahier is on the other side of the room with Yves Montand, Phil Hill, Richie Ginther, Mike Spence and, I think, Bob Bondurant. I looked for a few seconds at the mystery man back left of the main room, convinced myself it wasn't Denny, then he turned his head and the profile was clear. Definitely Mr. Hulme. He looks so young!

[JacnGille]

And more sad news for "Grand Prix" fans:   Jessica Walter, who played Pat Stoddard, the wife of Scott Stoddard (Brian Bedford), has died at age 80.

 

https://www.hollywoo...-was-80-1262068

 

She was primarily known for her TV roles, many of the obituaries omit any mention of her role in Grand Prix.

 

I believe that leaves Eva-Marie Saint and Francoise Hardy as the only members of the principal cast still alive.

Sad news

[Arjan de Roos]

Arjan, I've just cheated and had a look on YouTube where the complete film can be found. The drivers' meeting is at 1.27.40 and, as you say, Bernard Cahier is on the other side of the room with Yves Montand, Phil Hill, Richie Ginther, Mike Spence and, I think, Bob Bondurant. I looked for a few seconds at the mystery man back left of the main room, convinced myself it wasn't Denny, then he turned his head and the profile was clear. Definitely Mr. Hulme. He looks so young!

It is a great scene, is it not? I watched this movie too often.. One consolation is that the tracks (somewhat) remain.

[RobNNN]

RIP Jessica Walter. She was beautiful and fun too.

[AJB]

And more sad news for "Grand Prix" fans:   Jessica Walter, who played Pat Stoddard, the wife of Scott Stoddard (Brian Bedford), has died at age 80.

 

https://www.hollywoo...-was-80-1262068

 

She was primarily known for her TV roles, many of the obituaries omit any mention of her role in Grand Prix.

 

I believe that leaves Eva-Marie Saint and Francoise Hardy as the only members of the principal cast still alive.

I was pleased to see that the BBC mentioned not only 'Grand Prix' but also her starring role in 'Play Misty For Me'.

[Alan Baker]

And more sad news for "Grand Prix" fans:   Jessica Walter, who played Pat Stoddard, the wife of Scott Stoddard (Brian Bedford), has died at age 80.

 

https://www.hollywoo...-was-80-1262068

 

She was primarily known for her TV roles, many of the obituaries omit any mention of her role in Grand Prix.

 

I believe that leaves Eva-Marie Saint and Francoise Hardy as the only members of the principal cast still alive.

It depends how you define principal cast, but Genevieve Page, who played Monique Delvaux-Sarti, is still with us at the age of 93.

[Macca]

RIP Jessica Walter, a very good actress; here are some images from Monza:

 

 

and one from the paddock:

 

 

As well as Eva-Marie Saint (96), Francoise Hardy (77) and Genevieve Page (93), the other actor still with us is Donal O'Brien who is 90 - he is mistakenly listed on Wiki as having passed away in 2003 but his nephew confirmed he is still alive (Dec.2020) and lives in Paris. He is sitting between Jessica Walter and Adolfo Celi in the second photo; he played the team manager of Jordan-BRM.

 

Of the drivers who appeared in the film, only Bob Bondurant is still with us.

 

Paul M

Edited by Macca, 29 March 2021 - 12:47.

[jonpollak]

One of my favorite moments in the film is when Pat shoots upright from her night out drinking Ouzo

 

 

 

It wasn't till many years later that I learned what she must have felt like just then.

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 01 April 2021 - 14:47.

[Macca]

 

and then goes on the balcony, which marked with an arrow here:

 

 

I had forgotten in the list of actors still with us that John Fraankenheimer's widow, Evans Evans, who played Mrs Randolph and has a line at the post-Monaco party is still around, now aged 84. I believe this is her on the pit wall at Spa:

 

 

Paul M

[FLB]

RIP Jessica Walter, a very good actress; here are some images from Monza:

 

 

and one from the paddock:

 

 

As well as Eva-Marie Saint (96), Francoise Hardy (77) and Genevieve Page (93), the other actor still with us is Donal O'Brien who is 90 - he is mistakenly listed on Wiki as having passed away in 2003 but his nephew confirmed he is still alive (Dec.2020) and lives in Paris. He is sitting between Jessica Walter and Adolfo Celi in the second photo; he played the team manager of Jordan-BRM.

 

Of the drivers who appeared in the film, only Bob Bondurant is still with us.

 

Paul M

Françoise Hardy is in fairly ill health, though. She's suffering from cancer of the pharynx and cannot sign any more. She is openly talking about asking for euthasia in interviews, but says thatthe laws in France are 'inhumane':

 

Françoise Hardy, atteinte d'un cancer, voudrait avoir recours à l'euthanasie: "Je suis dans un état de souffrance cauchemardesque" - La Libre (en francais)

[Keir]

RIP Jessica Walter, a very good actress; here are some images from Monza:

 

 

and one from the paddock:

 

 

As well as Eva-Marie Saint (96), Francoise Hardy (77) and Genevieve Page (93), the other actor still with us is Donal O'Brien who is 90 - he is mistakenly listed on Wiki as having passed away in 2003 but his nephew confirmed he is still alive (Dec.2020) and lives in Paris. He is sitting between Jessica Walter and Adolfo Celi in the second photo; he played the team manager of Jordan-BRM.

 

Of the drivers who appeared in the film, only Bob Bondurant is still with us.

 

Paul M

Is that Jeff Jordan smiling ???

[Emery0323]

Is that Jeff Jordan smiling ???

More startling to me is the sight of Adolfo Celi smiling!

[Emery0323]

One of my favorite moments in the film is when Pat shoots upright from her night out drinking Ouzo

 

 

 

It wasn't till many years later that I learned what she must have felt like just then.

Jp

How quaint that Ouzo would have been considered such a potent intoxicant.  If she'd hung out with James Hunt 10 years later, it would have been cocaine and God-knows-what-else.

[Macca]

Here we are again...

 

There were a couple of locations still to be identified or located from a couple of years ago - I believe I have nailed them all now, but here is a simple one to start with.

 

 

The picture on the wall of the Yamura base (said to be near Silverstone but actually the Cooper works in Byfleet) was actually the Honda R & D facility in Japan - scroll to the bottom of this page.

 

Honda Global | The R&D Center Goes Independent / 1960

 

And entirely seperately, here is a link to a magazine from 1966 which gives many of the pages of a revealing article about the MGM/Warner rivalry that year:

 

Sunday Times - 10th July 1966 | The Duffy Archive

 

 

Paul M

[Macca]

 

Hello Gary - yes, but from another film!

And in this shot the journalist beside the car looks vaguely familiar, can anyone put a name to him:

 

 

Jason Plato's dad 

 

 

 

 

 

I found this picture in the book 'Race Report' of 1968 by Eddie Guba, it looks like it could be the mystery man.

 

Paul M

[Emery0323]

Here's an interesting picture of a parade float promo in NY. - Francoise Hardy and Jack Brabham are on the float!

The stated date is Dec. 1966, but Nov seems more likely as part of the Macy's Parade.

https://twitter.com/...9962371/photo/1

[jonpollak]

 

Jp

[Ian G]

Interesting..Thanks.

[jonpollak]

Some amazing footage from Grand Prix in this movie about Steve McQueen's Lost Movie called Day of a Champion

https://www.sky.com/...06-095c570a9c2d

 

Jp

[Manfred Cubenoggin]

Airs today, June 14, @ 16:45 DST, North America, on Turner Classic Movies.

[Dave Ware]

My in-laws saw “Grand Prix” on their first date. They’re not race fans. I think they just wanted to go to a movie and it was there. Even so, it earns them a bit of credit in my book.

[jonpollak]

Maurice Jarre's soundtrack... !!!

 

 

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 05 September 2023 - 18:24.

[B Squared]

Have a couple of copies of that album, bought in period. My Mom used to listen to it quite often.

[jonpollak]

That's cool Brian.

 

I wore out my copy by the time I hit 10years old.

Jp

[jonpollak]

The whole film (with the main titles partially cut out) is now on YouTube

 

 

Jp

[rl1856]

GP on YouTube ?   My IT dept will question why I used so much bandwidth this morning !

[Macca]

Locations:

The Yamura base in Britain where Aron had his seat fitting is known to have been the Cooper works off Canada Road in Byfleet, into which they moved in the winter of ‘65-‘66.



It was a single-storey factory with a partial mezzanine housing the drawing office (where the handshake photo was taken) and glazed ends.

Later, after the demise of the F1 team, it was used to store or prepare Mini-Coopers, and then by the Panther car company.





A few years ago I found from looking on Bing Maps a similar building in the right location:



but having had a look at it when passing, that is a two-storey building and the end elevations have recently been rebuilt. However, there is a newer building beside it, and looking at historical aerial views the previous building was still there in 1999 (the middle one of the 3 in the centre) and had a larger footprint and a similar roof design to the surviving one,



so I believe that it was the Cooper/Yamura works.

No doubt someone who went there in period can confirm or deny this…..

In next weeks exciting episode, the garage in Clermont-Ferrand used by Yamura.

Paul M

Edited by Macca, 17 October 2023 - 16:31.

[Macca]

https://t.co/fCNgQgbIVx

More stills from the making of the film.

Paul M

Edited by Macca, 19 November 2023 - 09:07.